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ask the chrysler engine people if they think that this was a success story. the facts, they speak for themselves. >> i mean, what is he talking about, dana? he voted for it and it was a success. >> well, i'm a little confused because now he's going to have an argument with his boss, mitt romney, who has said that in fact the whole thing was a success because president obama followed his advice, which wasn't true in the first place. but, still, they've got to get their falsehoods all lined up here if people are going to start asking questions. i think what happened here in ohio is they were looking at this and said, look, we're down five points and a whole bunch of these polls. we are losing the state. let's roll the dice. i think they realized there could be this kind of backlash that they are getting not just from the media but from the corporations themselves. the question is, how many of the people can they fool and would the truth actually get out to them before election day? it does not appear that that gam sbel working at this particular moment. >> now,
ask the chrysler engine people if they think that this was a success story. the facts, they speak for themselves. >> i mean, what is he talking about, dana? he voted for it and it was a success. >> well, i'm a little confused because now he's going to have an argument with his boss, mitt romney, who has said that in fact the whole thing was a success because president obama followed his advice, which wasn't true in the first place. but, still, they've got to get their falsehoods all...
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chrysler's ceo says it's simply not true. he writes on the company's blog, "jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the united states and will constitute the backbone of the brand. it sin accurate to suggest anything different." the man who president obama pictured to the czar to save the auto industry is stephen ratner. i asked for a response. stephen, good to see you. how do you respond to this ad? i'm here in ohio where these jeeps are made. they said that what mitt romney has said is wrong. tell me what you know about this. >> i think chrysler and general motors actually responded more forcefully than i have ever seen a company respond in 30 years in the business in terms of the adamancy they expressed. the facts are what he said. it makes good business sense for jeep to begin to produce jeeps in china for the local chinese market. those are jeeps that are not going to really get -- could not be realistically exported from the u.s. they need to be
chrysler's ceo says it's simply not true. he writes on the company's blog, "jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the united states and will constitute the backbone of the brand. it sin accurate to suggest anything different." the man who president obama pictured to the czar to save the auto industry is stephen ratner. i asked for a response. stephen, good to see you. how do you respond to this ad? i'm here...
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. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. (laughter) >> jon: sold chrysler to italians what, we're afraid of italians now? >> if obama wins, it will be the pope deciding what you drive. (laughter) one day they're ruining our car companies, the next day they'll be kissing our daughters with their garlicky lips. (laughter) by the way, apparently the classic italians are going to move american jeeps making jobs to china. why you say these things, mitt romney. kuz now i gotta makea the nice people of ohio say another ad saying that's [bleep]. >> after romney's false claim of jeep outsourcing to china chrysler itself has refuted romney's lie. >> jon: how out there is mitt romney, i a car company, the people who convince you you need the undercoating are coming after him for his dishonesty. (laughter) you might say well hey, why don't they just turn off the tv and leave the house and live their life. >> because you can't hide, because the candidates are [bleep] everywhere. >> it's goods nobody toldo, ohio. >> thank
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and the ceo of chrysler said, chrysler group's production for plans of the jeep plan have been the focus of public debate. i feel obliged to restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it's inaccurate to suggest anything different. steve ratner was formerly the obama administration's auto adviser, the lead auto adviser, sometimes called the car czar. bill blasick is detroit bureau chief for "the new york times" and author of "once upon a car: the fall and resurrection of america's big three automakers, gm, ford and chrysler." i saw the commercial, see how it could literally be true but delivers a message that obama brought down the big three, chrysler and jeep, and that he's moving jobs out of detroit and out of the united states. i think both those claims are false. what is your view, in fact, objective reporting on that? >> well, it's very unusual for general motors and chrysler, first off, to respond to a political ad. both companies were bailed out and have turned their fortunes around since their bankruptcies. and i think they both took a
and the ceo of chrysler said, chrysler group's production for plans of the jeep plan have been the focus of public debate. i feel obliged to restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it's inaccurate to suggest anything different. steve ratner was formerly the obama administration's auto adviser, the lead auto adviser, sometimes called the car czar. bill blasick is detroit bureau chief for "the new york times" and author of "once upon...
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that's a claim that chrysler has vehemently denied. >>> on the other side of ohio, mitt romney sharpened his attack on obama focusing on the economy. >> now, i know when we're elected the economy and american jobs will still be stagnant. but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. i will spend my effort trying to pass partisan legislation unrelated to economic growth. from day one i'll go to work to help americans get back to work. >> romney called yesterday's job's report, "a sad reminder the economy is at a virtual stand it still." unchanged at 7.9%. while the obama campaign touted the 171,000 jobs added with improved numbers in september and august. >>> we have crews spread out across the country following the campaigns on the last weekend before the election. president obama will make his first stop today and paul steinhauser following mitt romney in pennsylvania. let's start with dan in ohio. what is on the president's schedule sph. >> well, you can expect that the president will continue to hammer away at this mitt romney on the auto industry. you pointed out there
that's a claim that chrysler has vehemently denied. >>> on the other side of ohio, mitt romney sharpened his attack on obama focusing on the economy. >> now, i know when we're elected the economy and american jobs will still be stagnant. but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. i will spend my effort trying to pass partisan legislation unrelated to economic growth. from day one i'll go to work to help americans get back to work. >> romney called...
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and chrysler and jeep. and i'm trying to figure out which someone more serious. >> bill: let me help you out. one is a lie and one is not. the intelligence reports read the reports i have, the intelligence reports from on the scene in benghazi at the time of the protests were protestors there told our intelligence officers they were reacting to the protests in cairo which were directly triggered by that video. now, there was more to it than that. but at the time, what they reported was exactly what they were told by protestors on the scene. that was not a lie. that was what they were told. they were the intelligence reports from the c.i.a. okay? >> wasn't that a talking point from the c.i.a.? >> bill: no, they weren't talking points from the c.i.a. didn't you hear me? they were intelligence reports from the field. now, look, they turned out to be not totally accurate. there was more to it than that at the time, that's what they were told. that is no comparison to the lie that mitt romney is telling that g.m
and chrysler and jeep. and i'm trying to figure out which someone more serious. >> bill: let me help you out. one is a lie and one is not. the intelligence reports read the reports i have, the intelligence reports from on the scene in benghazi at the time of the protests were protestors there told our intelligence officers they were reacting to the protests in cairo which were directly triggered by that video. now, there was more to it than that. but at the time, what they reported was...
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to tall beyonds who will build jeeps in china. >> you do not scare hard working americans, to scare up votes that is not what being president is about. >>chris: wasn't that a mistake when g.m. and chrysler said the ad was misleading and chrysler, far from shipping jobs to china china is expanding operations in toledo. >>guest: it was interesting that president obama would attack governor romney on that when they put up an ad saying this governor romney health detroit go bankrupt when that is a headline from "new york times" and, second, is president obama talking about scaring people and yesterday he said voting is the best revenge. so, it goes back to a president who says when you cannot talk about big issues you talk about small things so rather than talk about $16 trillion deficit or 12 million jobs he is talking about voting for revenge and big bird so that is why governor romney is opening up leads now in minnesota yesterday, and pennsylvania has moved into a high and michigan has moved into a tie, and this is all because of the mes
and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to tall beyonds who will build jeeps in china. >> you do not scare hard working americans, to scare up votes that is not what being president is about. >>chris: wasn't that a mistake when g.m. and chrysler said the ad was misleading and chrysler, far from shipping jobs to china china is expanding operations in toledo. >>guest: it was interesting that president obama would attack governor romney on that when they put up an ad...
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obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >> i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. >> when the auto industry faced collapse, mitt romney turned his back. even the conservative "detroit news" criticized romney for his wrong-headedness on the bailout. and now after romney's false claim of jeep outsourcing to china, chrysler itself has refuted romney's lie. the truth? jeep is adding jobs in ohio. mitt romney on ohio jobs, wrong then. >> let detroit go bankrupt. >> dishonest now. >> 26 past the hour. look at that shot of washington, d.c., as the sun comes up this morning. you just saw dueling ads playing out in ohio. each campaign jockeying for the title of who's the bigger champion of the car industry? joining us now from the white house, nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," chuck todd. and in chicago, national political correspondent for "the new york times,
obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >> i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. >> when the auto industry faced collapse, mitt romney turned his back. even the conservative "detroit news" criticized romney for his wrong-headedness on the bailout. and now after romney's false claim of jeep...
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president obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy. taxpayers still stand to lose $25 billion from the president's politically managed bankruptcy. these companies, chrysler in particular, we know their story, are now choosing to expand manufacturing overseas. these are the facts. >> remember the president talked about romnesia? well, it's contagious. congressman ryan. congressman ryan's caught it. let me tell you the facts. congressman ryan voted with us. he voted in the congress with us. >> joining me now, msnbc's joy reid and robert reich, former clinton labor secretary, university of california at berkeley economics professor, and author of "beyond outrage." joy reid, do you know florida? has no one told jeb bush this thing about his brother's lack of popularity with the american public? >> poor jeb keeps trying. he tried it at the convention too. he just tries to slip george in there every so often. >> you can't blame a brother, though. >> he loves his brother. you know, he keeps trying to get him back on the stage, and republicans
president obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy. taxpayers still stand to lose $25 billion from the president's politically managed bankruptcy. these companies, chrysler in particular, we know their story, are now choosing to expand manufacturing overseas. these are the facts. >> remember the president talked about romnesia? well, it's contagious. congressman ryan. congressman ryan's caught it. let me tell you the facts. congressman ryan voted with us. he voted in the congress with...
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two statements by chrysler corporation. they're expanding jeep production here in the united states. they're spending billions of dollars in every plant that builds jeep products. in toledo, ohio, in belvedere, illinois, in detroit, michigan. they're doubling -- chrysler is doubling down on their investment and creating jobs in america. general motors, which romney claimed is taking a tax dollars to china, they invested $8.5 billion in the united states of america. in michigan, in ohio, in tennessee, all over this country. they're investing, creating jobs, helping us to get out of the doldrums that we've been in in the economy. the strongest thing in the american economy right now is the automobile industry. and for him to really drive customers away by making these reckless statements is really wrong. he said in the debate, i wouldn't do anything to hurt gm or chrysler. baloney. he's doing it right now. he's telling lies about these -- misinformation and lies about these companies that could potentially drive customers awa
two statements by chrysler corporation. they're expanding jeep production here in the united states. they're spending billions of dollars in every plant that builds jeep products. in toledo, ohio, in belvedere, illinois, in detroit, michigan. they're doubling -- chrysler is doubling down on their investment and creating jobs in america. general motors, which romney claimed is taking a tax dollars to china, they invested $8.5 billion in the united states of america. in michigan, in ohio, in...
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obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >> all right, barbara. so forget for a moment that both general motors and chrysler have decried this ad as either false or misleading. but in the ad, governor romney says he has a plan for the auto industry. i'm curious about what is and why we haven't heard much about it until just a week before the election. >> as the ad itself says, major executives support governor romney and have point out people on the obama economic council are supporting mitt romney, because he does have a plan on day one to turn this country around in terms of jobs. and with the auto economy and everything else, you need to put people back to work. on day one, he is going to get the energy economy going and allowto allow us to have keystone pipeline opened up, and then he is going to increase economic opportunity for everybody, so that's why he's having so many people, even people on the president's own e
obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >> all right, barbara. so forget for a moment that both general motors and chrysler have decried this ad as either false or misleading. but in the ad, governor romney says he has a plan for the auto industry. i'm curious about what is and why we haven't heard much about it until...
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler who italians who will sell jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> stephanie: oh, my god. >> i'm mitt romney and i'm a big fat liar. >> stephanie: my pants are literally on fire. it's got pants on fire, the entire ad. >> every single line is a lie. >> stephanie: jeep and chrysler have had to come out and say that's not true. >> what fact checkers? >> they're not going to let them dictate the campaign anyway. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: the detroit news -- he doesn't know the same endorsement accused of him of him of wrongheadedness. >> despite his raw headedness on the bailout supporting him. >> oh, and lee iacocca supports romney. there is a ringing endorsement from 1985. >> stephanie: 1985 called. they got their foreign policy and their car guys back. okay. wow. all right. and here we are. i think they've moved to plan b impeaching the president for libya after he wins. here's john mccain. >> somebody the other day said to me this is as bad as watergate. nobody died in watergate but this is a -- eith
and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler who italians who will sell jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> stephanie: oh, my god. >> i'm mitt romney and i'm a big fat liar. >> stephanie: my pants are literally on fire. it's got pants on fire, the entire ad. >> every single line is a lie. >> stephanie: jeep and chrysler have had to come out and say that's not true. >> what fact checkers? >> they're not going to let them...
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and chrysler -- at fiat, chrysler said this would take a circus acrobat to read the article that way. that's when you shut down. no. then they go up with an ad saying it. then they get called out by the head of fiat. and then they get called out by gm. then they go up with a radio ad that is even more aggressive, and then paul ryan goes out on the trail and goes back to romney and romney's initial arguments about they're shipping stuff over and totally trashing the auto bailout without ever mentioning that paul ryan voted for the auto bailout. it is surreal and i have to tell you "the toledo blade" my old paper, front page stories each day about this isn't true, how are people responding. i think that when the history of this campaign is written, there's going to be a chapter on this and it's going to be mitt romney's -- i mean, it is a high bar, mitt romney's dumbest move. >> betsey, can you adjudicate a little bit this dispute about what happened in auto in terms of mitt romney's contention that he was basically for the policy that ended up happening even though he clearly was inter
and chrysler -- at fiat, chrysler said this would take a circus acrobat to read the article that way. that's when you shut down. no. then they go up with an ad saying it. then they get called out by the head of fiat. and then they get called out by gm. then they go up with a radio ad that is even more aggressive, and then paul ryan goes out on the trail and goes back to romney and romney's initial arguments about they're shipping stuff over and totally trashing the auto bailout without ever...
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. >> obama took gm and chrysler in bankruptcy. and sold chrysler to italians when will build jeeps in china. >> you don't scare up workers to scare up votes. that is not what it is about. >> chris: isn't that a mistake, when gm and chrysler said the ad was misleading and the fact is, that chrysler, far from shipping jobs to hoshohio is expanding operations in toledo? >> well, i find it interesting that the president would attack governor romney on that, when they put up an ad, saying that, you know, governor romney let detroit go bankrupt when that is a headline from "the new york times" op-ed. and, the second thing, is president obama talking about scaring people, when,esterday he's out there saying, voting is the best revenge. so, it gets back to a president who says, when you can't talk about big issues, you talk about small things. so, rather than talking about a $16 trillion deficit, or 12 million jobs or putting america back to work, he is talking about big bird and he's talking about voting for revenge. so, that is why you
. >> obama took gm and chrysler in bankruptcy. and sold chrysler to italians when will build jeeps in china. >> you don't scare up workers to scare up votes. that is not what it is about. >> chris: isn't that a mistake, when gm and chrysler said the ad was misleading and the fact is, that chrysler, far from shipping jobs to hoshohio is expanding operations in toledo? >> well, i find it interesting that the president would attack governor romney on that, when they put up...
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obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians that are going to build jeeps in china. >> romney's new ad running in ohio claims that president obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy. interesting. because romney preferred a managed bankruptcy for the car companies. he claimed that jeeps are going to be built in china by italians. the ceo of chrysler found that whopper too much to bear and issued a statement to say, . >> who will be best for the auto industry? it may not be the guy whose car ad is full of holes. joining me from detroit is jonathan cone. >> thanks for having me on. when we talk cars, i get out my transformers and have this whole thing about president obama being optimist prime. is the car issues going to be the thing that turns ohio voters? >> it is a huge issue. in ohio, 1 of every 8 jobs is tied to the auto industry. the voters there, they understand how important the auto rescue, the obama's decision to provide chrysler and g.m. loans. they know how important that was. people forget now but 2008, 2009 when g.m. and chrysler were on the ve
obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians that are going to build jeeps in china. >> romney's new ad running in ohio claims that president obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy. interesting. because romney preferred a managed bankruptcy for the car companies. he claimed that jeeps are going to be built in china by italians. the ceo of chrysler found that whopper too much to bear and issued a statement to say, . >> who will be best for the auto...
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chrysler says it is a big lie. gm says it is a big lie. the "detroit free press" says it is a big lie. does mitt romney even care about the truth at all? obviously not. we'll get into that and a whole lot more here on the "full court press." but here she is lisa ferguson out in los angeles. >> good morning everyone. mitt romney is headed to florida today to host events with senator marco rubio and jeb bush. he starts off the date in tampa and then heads to coral gables and jacksonville. paul ryan will be campaigning in wisconsin. some are calling the pair's reemergence on the campaign trial after supposedly taking time out out of respect for the hurricane victims. romney's official reason for the event yesterday was to collect donations for storm victims, but it sure looked a lot like a campaign, a big american flag on the wall campaign music, crowds and the press were invited. voters had to wait to drop off their donations until romney arrived to collect them himself. john mccain even went as far as to blast president obama on the benghaz
chrysler says it is a big lie. gm says it is a big lie. the "detroit free press" says it is a big lie. does mitt romney even care about the truth at all? obviously not. we'll get into that and a whole lot more here on the "full court press." but here she is lisa ferguson out in los angeles. >> good morning everyone. mitt romney is headed to florida today to host events with senator marco rubio and jeb bush. he starts off the date in tampa and then heads to coral gables...
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both chrysler and gm are firing back at romney. chrysler ceo said in a statement jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the united states and will con sstitute th backbone of the grand. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. a gm spokesman told the detroit news, quote, we've clearly enter ed some parallel universe during the last few days, no amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish the record of creating jobs in the united states. remember, this new romney jeep ad claims that all factual statements in it, the implication is different, but the statements themselves say jeep is being built in china, which the ad says for the implication, of course, is this idea that they're moving some operations out of ohio to china and that's what both gm and chrysler are fighting back on is that perception. ohio papers pummeling romney for the ad. they called it a ploy in an editorial yesterday and said romney is flailing in ohio. and don't forget that detroit, where the free press is heavily criticized rom
both chrysler and gm are firing back at romney. chrysler ceo said in a statement jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the united states and will con sstitute th backbone of the grand. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. a gm spokesman told the detroit news, quote, we've clearly enter ed some parallel universe during the last few days, no amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish the record of creating jobs in the united states. remember, this new...
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they assert that president obama forced chrysler into bankruptcy so the italians could take over chrysler. and ship jeep manufacturing to china. that's what the ad says. that's what the ad said. it's an outrageous lie. >> don avalon is a cnn contributor who also serves as a senior political columnist for "ne "newsweek" and the daily beast. joining from us youngstown, ohio. i know you've done a lot of reporting on this issue. is the ad inaccurate? >> reporter: the ad is inaccurate, but it really is resonating here in ohio, and not in a good way for the romney campaign. a lot of voters i've spoken to, they've heard about the ad, they've seen it and understand it's an attempt to muddy the waters and play fast and loose with the facts. that's not helping the romney campaign. voters i've spoken to say he didn't need to do this. why did he do this late in the game? we also spoke to ohio senators, rob portman and sherrod brown about the ad. and here's what they said, carol. >> i say it's the most disingenuous ad i've seen. they know better. they know the auto rescue worked. they understand that
they assert that president obama forced chrysler into bankruptcy so the italians could take over chrysler. and ship jeep manufacturing to china. that's what the ad says. that's what the ad said. it's an outrageous lie. >> don avalon is a cnn contributor who also serves as a senior political columnist for "ne "newsweek" and the daily beast. joining from us youngstown, ohio. i know you've done a lot of reporting on this issue. is the ad inaccurate? >> reporter: the ad...
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a tax-free zone in china which means they can -- chrysler could set up shop. basically be part of that tax-free area, and so that third advantage is a big tax advantage. neil: but think about what your saying. all makes perfect business sense, but the president in all of these debates with mitt romney has been saying you want ship these jobs of the china. here we have bailed out of the company's who we were told, you get this money, save american jobs. we literally are, after all of that, shipping those jobs to china. maybe the right and apparent big macro reasons, but to belittle mitt romney and to say that that is what you're all about, this isn't about casting aspersions on democrats or republicans. if it was a potential i think people would have said, no way in hell. that's what' happening. >> it's a classic example. with all due respect, president obama i obviously doesn't understand how our multinational company works. there is a board of directors, executives. they are responsible to shareholders to make wise decisions on how to run the operatiin. in fa
a tax-free zone in china which means they can -- chrysler could set up shop. basically be part of that tax-free area, and so that third advantage is a big tax advantage. neil: but think about what your saying. all makes perfect business sense, but the president in all of these debates with mitt romney has been saying you want ship these jobs of the china. here we have bailed out of the company's who we were told, you get this money, save american jobs. we literally are, after all of that,...
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been pounding mitt romney for that essentially false ad that has been debunked widely and now that chrysler and gm and their executives have come out against mitt romney, that's been a really big problem for mitt romney. >> and they're adding jobs, they're even adding jobs at the honda plant. in the end, will you both be watching the cleveland area, cuyahoga county on the list? >> and the columbus area where we are right now, which is one of the swing counties here. a very, very important. but the bottom line is turnout. if the obama/sherrod brown organization can bring out the vote, they can win this state. but, you know, a lot fewer people voted here in 2010 and the republicans ran the table in ohio. so unless some of those 2008 voters come out again, the ones who stayed home in 2010, obama could have some trouble. they've got to come back to the polls. the indications are they will, but we don't know for sure. >> and the that is the whole point of the obama turnout operation that has been in place now for four years. the state director, greg schultz, has been on the ground in ohio since
been pounding mitt romney for that essentially false ad that has been debunked widely and now that chrysler and gm and their executives have come out against mitt romney, that's been a really big problem for mitt romney. >> and they're adding jobs, they're even adding jobs at the honda plant. in the end, will you both be watching the cleveland area, cuyahoga county on the list? >> and the columbus area where we are right now, which is one of the swing counties here. a very, very...